Curse

Magikarp · Nov 22, 2007, 05:01 AM // 05:01

I've got Dishonorable Status, and I don't know why. I don't use vulgar anything, i'm always saying GG, GL, HF, and the sort, i haven't left matches early, and yet i keep getting it about every other game i play in RA/TA/AB. this is getting ridiculous.

i asked someone i knew in game what it could be, and he asked me if i had reported anyone, and i have (leechers ect). he says one of them may be "getting back at me". are you serious??

if this is the case, im a legit pvper, and i can't even freaking do anything about this. it's been going on all day for me (about 5 hours), and it's becoming a major problem having to wait out the time between EVERY entering.

what should i do???

edit: i tried not mapping when the end of match timer starts, and i stopped using the reporting system, this has been going on for like 3 days now

bilateralrope · Nov 22, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33

When you report someone, are you the only person doing so ?

Because if you are GW thinks your making a false report and punishes you instead.

Magikarp · Nov 22, 2007, 07:39 AM // 07:39

is that really fair? im using the system how it should be. obvious, blatant leechers and one time some racist guy shouting some messed up stuff in RA dis 1, were pretty deserving of the ban stick if you ask me.

that's not my fault if no one else cares to take the time to report clearly wrong deeds (or they just don't know)

i think the whole system's flawed...

crazy diamond · Nov 22, 2007, 08:38 AM // 08:38

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Originally Posted by Magikarp

i think the whole system's flawed...

You might be onto something there!

Khazad Guard · Nov 22, 2007, 10:04 AM // 10:04

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i asked someone i knew in game what it could be, and he asked me if i had reported anyone, and i have (leechers ect). he says one of them may be "getting back at me". are you serious??

Unless somethings changed you dont know who reports you. It would be rather stupid to be able to see who reports you, as that will just promote flaming.

All you ever see when reporting in RA/AB/etc is something like:
"<Offender> has been reported for <breach>" or "You have reported <offender> for <breach>"

Ulterion · Nov 22, 2007, 12:40 PM // 12:40

Dishonorable Hex is automated. /report (from trigger-happy emo's) = automatic DH points. End of Story. Is it pleasant? Hellz no! But the people just couldn't stop their bitching, so hence:

Update - Thursday September 27

Dishonorable Combatant System

To discourage experience and faction leeching, intentional stalling of arena matches, and leaving matches in Random Arena, Alliance Battles, the Jade Quarry, and Fort Aspenwood before they are complete, a Dishonorable Combatant penalty system has been put into effect.

Dishonor

Dishonor points affect game types that have randomly formed teams such as Random Arenas, Alliance Battles, and Competitive Missions.
An account may be given dishonor points for leaving a PvP match prematurely, for leeching experience or faction, or for falsely reporting teammates for leeching.
Players who leave a PvP match prematurely will receive 5 dishonor points.
If a player is reported for leeching, that player will receive 2 dishonor points for each report against him. Players who report a team member for leeching without a third of their team also reporting that player will also receive 2 dishonor points.
Any account that has accumulated 10 or more dishonor points is given the Dishonorable status, which is displayed as a buff icon on screen. While affected by this status, no characters present on that account may enter any PvP missions.
The Dishonorable status remains in effect for 1 minute for each accumulated dishonor point. This status cannot be removed by logging out or changing characters.
When the duration of the Dishonorable status has expired, characters on that account may once again join PvP missions.
Dishonor points will remain on the player's account for a total of 60 minutes. If further dishonor points are acquired during this period, that account is once again given the Dishonorable status, though for a longer period of time.
To clear dishonor points from an account, a player must go 60 minutes without accumulating any new dishonor points.

Fril Estelin · Nov 22, 2007, 12:47 PM // 12:47

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Originally Posted by bilateralrope

When you report someone, are you the only person doing so ?

Because if you are GW thinks your making a false report and punishes you instead.

More exactly:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Disho...mbatant_System

"Players who report a team member for leeching without a third of their team also reporting that player will also receive 2 dishonor points."

Solution to the OP's problem:

"To clear dishonor points from an account, a player must go 60 minutes without accumulating any new dishonor points."

Fril Estelin · Nov 22, 2007, 12:52 PM // 12:52

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Originally Posted by Magikarp

is that really fair? im using the system how it should be.

No. You're using the system as you expect it to work. Take a careful look at the "1/3rd of the party" rule. If it weren't there, any one in your group could report you, which would also lead to the Dishonorable Hex and you wouldn't be happy either, would you?

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obvious, blatant leechers and one time some racist guy shouting some messed up stuff in RA dis 1, were pretty deserving of the ban stick if you ask me.

Take a screenshot, report on NCsoft support and the guy will effectively get banned (possibly definitely if he's used to this behavior).

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that's not my fault if no one else cares to take the time to report clearly wrong deeds (or they just don't know)

i think the whole system's flawed...

Could it be that your sentence between brackets actually invalidate your last comment? It's like speed limits, there're here to prevent accidents, but still people speed for convenience. Sometimes it's about the system, but not here!

upier · Nov 22, 2007, 01:07 PM // 13:07

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Originally Posted by Ulterion

Players who report a team member for leeching without a third of their team also reporting that player will also receive 2 dishonor points.

Woohoo!
That one is sweet!

So that means if we get a leecher at Aspy and there are no other trigger-happy-reporting people on my party - it's better to just go AFK too.
Ahhh - or I demand that they report somebody for being AFK or I'll go AFK too.
Oki - at least we have a plan.

william1975 · Nov 22, 2007, 02:20 PM // 14:20

I report when i see something but if you are in the middle of a fight its not easy to win and report at the same time, I tend to report the blatently obvious

Omniclasm · Nov 22, 2007, 02:45 PM // 14:45

Let me guess....a report freak that reports everyone anytime that they lose?

Magikarp · Nov 22, 2007, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by Omniclasm

Let me guess....a report freak that reports everyone anytime that they lose?

did you just come here to troll omni? you have no idea who i am, what i do, or anything else, but you come here to troll a thread for no reason. i clearly stated the situation, and if that's not good enough for you, go get banned on another thread please.

these are people in AB/RA Asp, that flat out aren't moving, making us man down. its not my fault if im using the system for how it should be used. if no one else reports, and i have to take screen shots like before, why do we even have the stupid system?

Omniclasm · Nov 22, 2007, 03:34 PM // 15:34

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Originally Posted by Magikarp

did you just come here to troll omni? you have no idea who i am, what i do, or anything else, but you come here to troll a thread for no reason. i clearly stated the situation, and if that's not good enough for you, go get banned on another thread please.

these are people in AB/RA Asp, that flat out aren't moving, making us man down. its not my fault if im using the system for how it should be used. if no one else reports, and i have to take screen shots like before, why do we even have the stupid system?

I don't know where you are playing then m8. It takes 10 Dishonor points to get the dishonor status. I don't see 10 leechers in RA in a WEEK, let alone a few hours.

AB, since the dishonor update, I haven't seen that many leechers there either. There is still the occasional one, but not 2-3 per match.

I report leechers any time I see them too....guess how many times I have gotten the dishonor status? Once....so I could see how it worked.

Either you are over-reporting like a madman, or you are getting reported for leeching, OR you leave battles.

Theres not enough leechers for you to constantly have the dishonor status from reporting them.

Magikarp · Nov 22, 2007, 03:38 PM // 15:38

do you not read? that's why im so confused, because im not doing ANY of those things. i'm compiling a video as of yesterday, showing exactly whats happening for ANet. somethings not right with my account or something.

i report, once, maybe twice a day, if that, and i play a lot, so thats not a big deal. i dont leave matches ever, and i clearly dont leech. blah blah blah, you dont read anyhow.

i hope Anet does something, its got to be a bug or something.

Omniclasm · Nov 22, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by Magikarp

do you not read? that's why im so confused, because im not doing ANY of those things. i'm compiling a video as of yesterday, showing exactly whats happening for ANet. somethings not right with my account or something.

i report, once, maybe twice a day, and i play a lot, so thats not a big deal. i dont leave matches ever, and i clearly dont leech. blah blah blah, you dont read anyhow.

i hope Anet does something, its got to be a bug or something.

Yeah dude, I read your "I'm so innocent, so why punish me?" post. Many convicted criminals say the same thing.

Fortunately, a computer program does not make single errors. The game is not just going to give your account dishonorable status from a bug. If it was bugged it would give it to everyone, not just lil ol innocent you. You HAVE to be doing some of these, you don't just get dishonor status.

Antheus · Nov 22, 2007, 03:47 PM // 15:47

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and yet i keep getting it about every other game i play in RA/TA/AB

When you map out, you get 5 dishonorable points. Every other match would indicate you leave every match early.

If you really are getting it almost every other match, then this is almost certainly due to leaving. Due to random nature of players in these matches, it's essentially impossible for someone to be "getting back at you".

Clarissa F · Nov 22, 2007, 04:22 PM // 16:22

I gotta agree. If you are getting that many points(every other game? they should report you for reporting instead of playing!), that has to mean one of the three reasons mentioned. Hell, I'll go through friggin Aspenwood and not encounter that many leechers/leavers. The best way is to take a screenie and report that way. Since you are a man down, anyway, the time is negligible. You can even tell the others, so you aren't considered one, yourself.

The /report was a bad idea. It encourages people to cry. As far as the "unfairness", it's not you are earning a permanent "Dishonorable" title. Maybe the reason 1/3 didn't report it was because they were too busy PLAYING and trying to see what skills they had to try and do it a man down. Hell, it's RA/AB. Chill out.

Magikarp · Nov 22, 2007, 04:40 PM // 16:40

do you get dishonor after the timer saying the match is over, and you leave?

like, we lose/win a match, the timer says time remaining before next match/leave, and i map out. is THAT an offense????

and you're very irritating omni, do me a favor and stop posting. you started as a troll, and now you're plain rude, just leave.

Antheus · Nov 22, 2007, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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i dont leave matches ever

turned into:

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like, we lose/win a match, the timer says time remaining before next match/leave, and i map out

You're getting dishonored for mapping out. Yes, I know, always after the timer starts and all that.

Try waiting those 5 seconds. Literally, five seconds.

Darkhell153 · Nov 22, 2007, 04:54 PM // 16:54

No matter, what you say Magikarp it really doesn't change the facts, if you get dishonerable status so often then e mail the gw support and tell them your character name, then ask why you're getting dishonerable so often. Maybe they'll tell you a list of your offenses.

But do not play the innocent, just admit that you probably did something wrong by accident and it could have been interpreted as something worthy of dishonerable points. It's really not that serious a punishment anyway, at least you're not getting a permanent ban for it!

P.s: Omni's got a point (if you overlook his current bad mood) the only way you could get dishonerable points was if you did something wrong, if you're getting them for mapping out then just stop mapping out, if you're getting them for reporting then focus on the match and stop reporting. Some of us take getting leachers as a thrill because we get to diversify our skill usage to fit 3 v 4 instead of 4v4.